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The Church is Bearing Mongrels

The Church is Bearing Mongrels
by Joie Pirkey

For the past three days the Lord has been speaking to me in a number of dreams and visions about the state of the Church in the United States.  In the first one He showed me a baby being born.  Its mother was so consumed with herself that the baby was half delivered and she had been walking around like that for days.  When I approached her in this dream she seemed unaware of the horrifying half birthed infant but I knew that was not true because she had placed small patent leather shoes on the baby’s feet that were extending from her body.  She told me that the feet were cold so she put them on.  I told her to sit down and then I grabbed the ankles of this very blue baby, flipped the shoes off, and pulled it out.  It was very large and could not breathe.  So I picked him up and told him that I thought he would not live but that we would pray.  I gathered together with a number of people and we began to pray that God would breathe life into this baby.  When I looked at him, during the prayer, he was pink and breathing.
After the dream finished, I began to pray and ask God for an interpretation.  The one thing that He stressed to me was the urgency that needed to be taken regarding what I was seeing.  The baby wasn’t breathing and if we did nothing it would not live.
That evening, after the blue baby dream, I spoke to four different people about it.  I was hoping that God would reveal to me what exactly this baby was and how I or the Church was supposed to discover it.
Last night before I fell asleep I was asking the Lord again for more revelation about the dream.  Just before waking I had another dream.  In this dream one local pastor was introducing a national pastor.  They were having some sort of heated disagreement about the national pastor’s son coming out on the platform with him as he was being introduced.  The local pastor made a comment into the mic about the stature of this man’s son.  The kid was maybe 15 years old and was the size of an 8 year old.  When I looked closely at him he looked like he had maybe fetal alcohol syndrome or some sort of development issue and retardation.  I was horrified by the rudeness of the local pastor and for the embarrassment of the boy, but he seemed oblivious as the congregation laughed heartily.  The national pastor then, very angrily, told off the local pastor, but he turned his body so the crowd could not see him.   Then he looked back out at the congregation, smiled and waved.
Just then I woke up.  I was thinking through what I had just seen when I went into a vision, wide awake.  I saw the church again with the two pastors and small boy.  A man out in the congregation began to wave at me.  I took a closer look and he had a very small arm coming out of the side of his head, which was waving.  I was shocked and then began to scan the audience where I was seeing many malformed people.
The vision ended and the Lord spoke to me.  He told me that what I was seeing was the Church.  Not the local church only but the National Church in the United States.  He said that we were birthing “mongrels.”  We were taking in so many demonic ideas and ways and allowing them to saturate the culture of the church that instead of birthing living water we were birthing mongrels.  Many were not even alive.  While the Church stood there, deformed and witnessing a sinful display, they were actually  cheering and laughing. They were ignoring their ugliness and dressing up the horror that the Lord let me see.  His disgust over this was overwhelming.
The Lord has been showing me issue by issue, things that were birthed in the pit of hell and are effectively spreading inside the Church and are actually being called good.  As we absorb these beliefs and practices we mix with them and create mongrels.  When I looked the word up after hearing it twice from the Lord in the vision I found the definition interesting.  Here it is from Webster’s Dictionary:
1 : an individual resulting from the interbreeding of diverse breeds or strains  2 : a cross between types of persons or thing

The issues that the Lord has been speaking to me about and how they are seeping into the culture and fabric of the Church in the U.S. are as follows:
I.    Homosexuality:  He has told me that this sin is far more about vulnerability than the sexual acts that manifest this vulnerability.   To say in the Church that it is something people are born with and that it is not a sin is the most unloving thing the Church can do to and for the people bound in this sin.
II.    The worship of demons through sex outside of marriage.  This sin culminates in the blood sacrifice to the devil through the abortions of babies conceived in these acts.
III.    Pigeonholing Christianity with Islam.  This act is far more serious than we can see and many in the Body of Christ are doing it with great zeal, pronouncing as loving and good, what the Lord hates.
IV.    Fear:  Fear of the lack of money is the worship of self.
V.    Political Correctness:  Not wanting to offend; the pull of tolerance; the lack of loving enough to rebuke as we are told in Matthew 18 and I Timothy 5.
VI.    Engaging in reading or watching or learning in any way of those things detestable to the Lord as mentioned in Deut. 18 which the Lord has told me includes the Twilight series and those types of books and movies.
These are the highlights of some of what the Lord has been speaking to me about.  These are manifestations of a far greater problem.  They are creating mongrels.  They are destroying the Church and the witness of light in our nation.  We must repent.  We must turn to Him with torn garments and plead for His intervention; for His breath to blow upon the Church in the United States and revive us to a Body that pleases Him again.
After the vision and the time with the Lord I got up and got ready for Church.  I attend Christ’s Church of the Valley in Appleton, WI.  As the worship began we sang “These are the Days of Elijah.”  When we got to the phrase “Righteousness being restored…”  a sort of deep sob began to well up inside of me.  The strange thing was in my mind, in my thoughts, I was perfectly fine.  It was as if my spirit was beginning to wail without any thought of it.  I began to cry and then for the next two songs I had to sit down as I struggled uselessly to control myself.
Pastor Tim Snell began to preach.  He briefly went over the state of CCV and how we ended the year in the black, how the numbers have grown, how the links have spread, and how the prayer meetings have become more full, but then went on to speak of the need of repentance.  He spoke about the National Church, including us, and how, like in Revelation, God was calling us out of lukewarmness and into a hot life for and in Him!
I could barely sit there.  I was stunned.  God was screaming for our attention and I sat there struggling in my mind how and if I should share this series of dreams and the message about the blue baby.  What happened next I hesitate to share because I hear people tell me these types of things and I find that I dismiss what they say because it seems hyper spiritual and ridiculous really.  But it was so bizarre that I feel I should tell it.
As Tim preached I bowed my head and asked God, “Should I share the dream about the baby?  What if Tim doesn’t look up to see if I have anything, should I just go up there and tell him anyway?”  Just then I thought I saw something out of the corner of my eye.  It grabbed my attention so I turned and looked.  There beside me was a baby’s pacifier, spinning.  I about gasped out loud.  I thought, “That is so weird, but come on.  The baby behind me probably just dropped it.  For Pete’s sake Joie get a grip.”  I reached down to pick it up and looked back for the mom.  A number of people behind me were laughing.  Here the mom of twins was sitting about eight rows behind me in the very back of church.  Somehow one of these little babies either threw or dropped this pacifier and it rolled quite a ways to end up right beside me.
As I sat there processing this very odd situation it occurred to me that what the Lord had explained to me after the vision was partly caused by people holding their tongues.  And here I was sitting there, having heard from the Lord for the Church, debating whether I should share it.  In this series of dreams one salient issue the Lord was rebuking me personally for was for not putting childish things behind me and for not rising up in maturity and obedience and walking in all the Lord has for me.  Withholding the things that He shares with us that will help clean up the Body is just as unpleasing to the Lord as those unclean things.
Part of being a mature Christian, a mature Body, is holding ourselves accountable and dealing with sin in a biblical way.  In the name of tolerance, in the name of encouragement and exhortation, in the name of blessings and prosperity, in the name of entertainment and fun, we have assumed many a demonic idea into the very fiber of the Body of Christ.  We have skipped the cross, repentance, and holiness.  We have cried “Grace! Grace!” when we need to be crying “Holy! Holy!”.  Church, we are sick; sick to the point that instead of living water coming from our bellies we are producing mongrels.  We must repent.  We must repent for ourselves and stand in the gap for others.  We must put away childish things and embrace the walk that Christ has for us.  We are not pleasing the Lord here in Wisconsin, nor Texas, nor in the entire nation.
Revelation 3:1-6 and 3:14-22
These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead. 2Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God. 3Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. 4Yet you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will walk with me, dressed in white, for they are worthy. 5He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels. 6He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
14″To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:
These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. 15I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. 19Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest, and repent. 20Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. 21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”
I strongly encourage you to download and listen prayerfully to the sermon from today, January 3, 2010, from the CCV web site:

We will be meeting at the House of Prayer this Tuesday night to pray about this.  Please join us if you feel lead.  Request directions and time at: or inbox me.


January 4, 2010 - Posted by | Uncategorized


  1. Thanks for your insight in to whats going on.
    So i can pray about these issues.

    Comment by Doug | January 4, 2010

  2. WOW…that’s all I can say. WOW! I’m wondering if you’ve heard of any other people throughout the country receiving similar dreams/visions. Surely there must be some if this is a National issue. It would be interesting to see how they are dealing with these things and maybe link up to fight together once in a while. Through the internet maybe (technology IS amazing!) or maybe even try to put together some kind conference or national event for a CALL TO HOLINESS! I would come. I would find a way to get there!

    Comment by E. Warigi | January 4, 2010

    • I have gotten so many inboxes and posts about people hearing the same message. Now we need to come together and repent! Great idea. I’ll be praying about this.

      Comment by Joie Pirkey | January 6, 2010

  3. Joie,

    Interesting about the deformed people. The dream you described her is almost exactly what my friend Jolene dreamed during a period of intense prayer for our church.

    There were deformed arms and some with no legs but arms coming out of strange places. The people were also attached to strange objects and furniture. (Kind of reminded of Picasso’s stuff as she shared it with me). And clearly, I believe it is an indication of demonic activity. I’m going to send my friend your latest post.



    Comment by Tracey Lawrence | January 4, 2010

    • PS And her dream took place in a room of our church that was in the main pathway, but was overlooked. So clearly she discerned it was a statement about our local church.

      Comment by Tracey Lawrence | January 4, 2010

  4. WOW! I was in bed just before coming out to my computer, reading in Revelation about the 7 churches!! No wonder I couldn’t sleep….I think the Lord was leading me to read this!! This could not have been more timely!! This has definitely been on my heart about many people in leadership allowing a “false” gospel on so many levels to arise in our midst. My husband and I were just discussing a video we watched today of a certain popular ministry and how the words out of his mouth were very contorted and completely against the Word of God! If we do not become grounded in our words and interceed fervently for the church, I believe we have some sobering times ahead.
    I also had a dream about contorted looking creatures(half human, half demon maybe?) going from home to home and they had these tazer-looking objects. They would run these objects up and down every persons body in the home to see if they had eaten(which I believe was “eaten of God’s Word) and if you had not, you would get taken(confusion)….the forefront “creature” was homosexual amongst all the other ones. I just knew this in my spirit. There were horrible screams everywhere in the streets.
    God is giving us many warnings…. I too, feel very saddened about the state the church is in and I really appreciate you Joie, sharing such a timely word!! Many Blessings to you! Jill Dickinson

    Comment by Jill Dickinson | January 4, 2010

    • that’s so weird because my friend from CO who posted above also had a woman in her church see these things. We need to take seriously these warnings and pray! And repent! And turn around and set others free!

      Comment by Joie Pirkey | January 6, 2010

  5. Been getting the same message, Joie. Compelled to read “The Remnant” by Larry Stockstill on my trip to Florida this week. The message is clear. We need to return to Truth. Prayer, fasting and repentance ought to be the priority for all Christians today…for ourselves, our neighbors, our nations and our world. Thanks for boldly proclaiming what God is clearly pressing on your heart. It is confirmed in my spirit…and obviously, Our Lord’s Voice is moving from gentle whisper, toward a Trumpet Call! Let us have ears to hear. Blessings, Sister!

    Comment by DeDe | January 4, 2010

  6. Joie,
    I as muslim support you on the issues that are common to us,ie. we are against homosexuality,against porn against gambling,etcetc.
    Shouldn’t we muslims and christians work together for a common goal.?

    Comment by Hassan | January 4, 2010

    • Hassan,

      Muslims seem always to have as their ulterior the denial of who Jesus is, the Son of God. There seems to be nothing Muslims will not do to corrupt the Christian faith. Why do you suggest we work together with you? I suspect it is to try to get Christians to believe that Islam and Christianity are similar; I suspect it is to get Muslims seen with Christians so people might get the idea that Allah and God are the same, but they are not. Why don’t you fight the culture war yourself with fellow Muslims? Your effort here on this blog is an obvious effort to make enroads into Christianity. Not one Muslim who has written on any of the four threads of this blog has wanted anything but to attack the Christian faith and weaken the faith of Christians. May the Lord Jesus grant you repentance.

      Comment by Douglas Pirkey | January 5, 2010

  7. I accepted all of what you said Joie, and here I respond to point V. Political Correctness: Not wanting to offend; the pull of tolerance; the lack of loving enough to rebuke as we are told in Matthew 18 and I Timothy 5.

    Thank you for the Scripture references. I will look those up and pray. I feel like this year is no time to be wishy-washy and not use our words when we know better and could speak the truth out plainly. The world is and those in it who have not been introduced to Jesus Christ are so hungry for the truth. The result of our sharing it is His business. His word will not return void, we should no longer accept the fear that holds us back and we should freely speak out the truth, and so what if we are persecuted for our words if they are His words he said we would be.
    I woke up New Year’s Day with so much love inside and many wonderful transforming thoughts of speaking Jesus’ name plainly and naturally in conversations in public out doing the shopping and what not. Not ashamed, but flowing as naturally as my relationship with Him. It was wonderful. I saw the words as seeds. We must sow (2010 is for sowing). Perhaps the birds will get some of these seeds but where there are no seeds, there are no crops/harvest. If the ground is plowed why would we not sow the seeds? Perhaps if we are not filled up with Him we are discontent and we cannot say godliness with contentment is great gain.
    I want to well up with thanksgiving as I have gained everything in Him.

    Comment by Annie | January 4, 2010

  8. Joie,

    For the last two years I have listened to those in the valley that have been saying there would be a great number of people that will come here to learn about God from all over the world.
    I have cringed at this. This is NOT what God has been showing me, in fact it is just the opposite. There will be a revival that will start with the young people who will answer the call of Christ to go and tell. They will bring their parents and friends to Christ.

    Another area that is breaking Jesus’ heart is the manner in which young women who claim to be Christians dress. Even in our Church. There is a lack of modesty. These young people are being brought to church by parents who come and though their hands up worship.

    Isaiah1:13 “Bring your worthless offerings no longer, Incense is an abomination to Me. New moon and sabbath, the calling of assemblies— I cannot endure iniquity and the solemn assembly.
    14 “I hate your new moon festivals and your appointed feasts, They have become a burden to Me; I am weary of bearing them.
    15 “So when you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide My eyes from you; Yes, even though you multiply prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are covered with blood.
    16 “Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean; Remove the evil of your deeds from My sight. Cease to do evil,
    17 Learn to do good; Seek justice, Reprove the ruthless, Defend the orphan, Plead for the widow.

    God has also brought to my attention that most of the Christian body are “feeding at the trough”. They are not doing the work that He has called the church to do.

    In Hebrews God tells us, 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

    5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

    5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

    The word of God is clear. The reason for the mongrels is the parents are not “feeding” on the meat of the word and do not know right from wrong, they in turn are not teaching their children the truth, and the children have a FORM of godliness, but become deniers of the power of it, not even realizing they are denying it. They raise their hands in worship, yet God does not accept their worship.

    He states in Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

    The problem with the modern church is it does not even know what those works are. Even though they are sitting in a book that they have several copies of in their home and cars.


    Comment by livingfortruth | January 5, 2010

  9. Joie,

    This bears a lot of similarity to what God has been telling me and what I have been trying to gently introduce to others as well. The particular issues He’s emphasized to me have been different just b/c a different vantage provides a different view of the spectrum. It is difficult in the current church environment to convince others that we are called to confront and that we can do so as life-givers in God’s intent, not legalists. Of course, extra humility is needed on any point where Christians can, after much thorough study, come to different conclusions about what they receive as the inerrant Word. But that is not what we are discussing here.

    Deb… for the cause of truth, meekness, and righteousness, psalm 45

    Comment by Deborah | January 6, 2010

  10. (That was Deborah Shore, btw.)

    Comment by Deborah | January 6, 2010

  11. We have to be very careful that we are being lead by the Spirit when we confront anything/ anyone. And as we are lead, be praying that you can speak clearly what you are getting from Him. There should always be scripture to back it up. And love to under gird it.

    The weird thing that I have noticed change in the church in the past 20 years is that the issues being confronted are never or rarely the problem the focus. What becomes the issue is the fact that you are confronting. It has become politically correct especially in the Church to REBUKE! those who confront or rebuke, for rebuking. Which makes no sense at all. As I began to notice this trend I was baffled by how passionate and actual hateful Christian, and even Christian ministers have become when they confront confrontation. Back in the day when we were confronted, whether legitimate or not, we knew to be humble, listen, thank the person, say that we would pray about it and so on. But now days man, people are attacking with a vengeance. That to me seems demonic. It’s weird. It’s like I go to someone in a very loving way and they immediately get hot, scream, accuse, slander, tear apart your character, go tell many other people. I find these responses stunning and a bit frightening. Why is that? The only conclusion that I can come to is that the enemy has a plan to destroy the Church with sin, as he always has. This time he is keeping anyone who is saying, “Hey! wake up! That’s gonna destroy you!” quiet. But not only quite, attacked. Bad mouthed. Lied about. Slandered. Then the Body gathers around the accused and points back at the confronter. I think that this is the devil working on the body in such a way as to make it afraid to take care of itself as directed in scripture.

    Since when do we believe that we have to be perfect and cannot take rebuke? Since when are we more concerned with being right than pleasing God? What ever happened to being mature and teachable and humble and able to handle well the concern’s of our brothers about our lives? What happened to that? What happened to gratitude when someone pointed out how we were straying from the Word of God? What has happened Church? For Pete’s sake what has happened?


    Comment by Joie Pirkey | January 6, 2010

  12. Yes, yes… and timing is so important too. One time I prayed for years first, though it still cost me a lot (but at least I got to be in God’s timing!)

    Exactly–it doesn’t matter what the content is, the main attack is on confrontation itself as a topic.

    It is a sort of reverse religious spirit (that is, a reaction to all the controls and constrictions and high performance emphasis) which is no less fear or pride-based than the original religious spirit was. There is a fear that somehow one is inhibiting the Spirit or missing personal blessings by daring to evaluate what is before them. And so camps are demarcated: supposedly, the lovers and the judgers. The lovers do not see that many of their own are fiercely judging the “judgers” and often cannot even entertain the idea that the “judgers” discernment might be in love, much less rooted and grounded and grown from love. But here I am speaking primarily of experience in charismatic circles. It is a bit of a different animal, I think, in the liberal-leaning church you describe.

    Comment by Deborah | January 6, 2010

  13. I am seeing the church like a person that has a serious wound. Instead of caring for the wound by cleaning it up, and applying salve (applying the word and repenting) dirt and dung are being rubbed into the wound. And when the doctor (Jesus the great physician) tries to have the nurse (those whom he sends to confront the sin), the church bites at the one who is trying to help it.
    The most caring thing that could be done is confronting the festering wound, clean it up and put medicine on it to get rid of the infection. However, as this is done, there is going to be the backlash.
    Paul said, “Girt ye up like men”, in other words we must be mature about this, in so doing HE will give us the supplies we need so that we lack nothing. We are in a battle.
    Again, like Jesus said, there are tares among us. Leadership is SO afraid of making someone mad and causing them to leave the church. Instead of rooting out the tares so they do not produce seed, the tares take up most of the elder-ship time.
    Paul told Timothy to build up the church by finding faithful men and equipping them to minister also. He also taught to rebuke sternly those who were in sin, and if they did not repent to cast them out. My observance is the opposite is happening. The ones who are not doing what they should are either coddled or their sin is overlooked. Thus allowing their seeds to spread like creeping Charlie. The little foxes spoil the vines, it is the little sins that not being dealt with grow up into bigger sins.
    There are those who seek signs and wonders and healings and gifts. Why would God give those if we are not following his instruction book? He said “If you love me, keep my commandments”, and, “You praise me with your lips, but your hearts are far from me.”

    We need to get back to the Bible, not the “studies show” philosophical and psychological mumbo jumbo that has invaded the church in the last 45 years.

    If you really want revival to come, it is going to take work, it is going to take prayer, and it is going to take fasting, and lots of it. It is going to take those who are doing the praying, fasting, and seeking after God to have revival start with them. It is going to take searching the heart for any wicked way, it is going to take confessing and rejecting the sin that so easily besets us. It is going to take repentance of both committed and omitted sin. As Keith Green once said, Lord bring revival, and let it start with me.

    We also need grace to be preached as well. Jesus came preaching GRACE and TRUTH. There should be Holiness in our lives, as well as graciousness. There should NOT be a pendulum swing so far to the other side that condemnation for condemnations sake is thrown on the people. Real, loving preaching and teaching so that their hearts condemn them to the point of repentance and salvation because God is allowed to show us his Greatness.

    If you truly want revival, then reading the following would make a good start!
    It is a hard read, and a tough read, but if you do what he suggests, revival will start with you, and me, and those we know and care about.

    Lord I do truly want to see revival, let it start with me, and my house!


    Comment by livingfortruth | January 6, 2010

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    Comment by Douglas | January 28, 2010

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